We will show you how to get a rate, ship, track and manage your account by using our online tools. But I hear it is coming. Since crews are usually pooled on a first-in, first-out basis, everyone still has the same opportunity to rack up miles and thus pay. This year alone, BNSF is investing approximately $1 billion into the 2,200-mile Southern Transcon route. Does anyone know where the crew change points are from Chicago all the way to Alliance Nebraska? Thanks in advance for your help.Ken Stitzel wrote: You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. LION *knows* that Mandan is a crew change point, but Dickinson is so no longer, and the next crew change point is Glendive, MT. Her husband is also a conductor. I haven't heard of this in a long time, so maybe this was a failed idea. (Except when that train gets too long, then it goes back to the short pool.) I hear talk about crews having to be changed because trains are late and their time is up, that doesn't seem to go by mileage. Going the extra mile for our customers and our communities. The additional high iron allows 70-mph intermodal trains to leap ahead of slower-moving merchandise and unit trains at crew-change points, which BNSF says will alleviate congestion, boost average train speed, and improve service on the busiest intermodal route in North America. Can someone in road service choosewhich pool to work in? "Almost every single day we go to work sick or tired because lineups are terrible," she admitted. erikem I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. 237 0 14. BNSF crew change points. | TrainBoard.com - The Internet's Original (200+ miles?). Satellite view on Google maps shows a lot of empty lots in the town and I guess that the population may have been 300 to 500 at its peak. Highlighting our commitment to safety, service, innovation, people, communities and our heritage. I though I saw articles in the mainstream press in the '80's that they were extending crew districts from east of Spokane, WA, across the Idaho panhandle, and over onto the flatland's of Montana. BNSF Crew Change - Free download as PDF File (.pdf), Text File (.txt) or read online for free. Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. Bassano was located at almost the exact halfway point on the Sub. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. Learn more about how the Amarillo project enhances the entire Southern Transcon in this video: Please subscribe to receive occasional email newsletters keeping you in the loop about BNSF and customized for where you live. Jeff, can you tell us the reason for having the two pools (short and long)? BNSF Railway opens fourth main track through Needles, Calif. - Trains UP on the east/westline crewbases or change points are: Proviso IL, West Chicago IL (some trains), Clinton IA,Boone IA (short pool), Missouri Valley IA (Clinton long pool), Fremont NE (short pool out of Boone) North Platte NE. I doubt many trains could've made the extra 70 or so miles to Rochelle on their hours. $221/day, with an average annual salary of $70,000 - $82,000. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. If I had not already packed my 1893 Guide in preparation for moving, I could give you the name of each road. Then in 1972 (after the HOS was changed to 14 hours, Dec. 26, 1970) the company decided to open up an inter-divisional run fromLA to San Luis Obispo), and have us do it in 14 hours, which really worked good. Back in the 60's, the SP had a run out of Los Angeles to Santa Barbara, CA. The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. A train in the long pool uses one less crew than if it goes to the short pool. Staying at one of the lodging motels can be interesting, but I wouldnt suggest being too inquiring these days. 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"The project in Amarillo as well as the other projects between Southern California and Chicago will help all traffic types along the route flow more freely and help prevent congestion.". Tell your friend that all trainsstop in Rawlins, as the Main Line Fuel Rack is located there. In order to get a minimum speed of 12 or so MPH on the 0.5% ruling grades, the locomotives should have been able to maintain 25 or more MPH on level track, hence my wondering about 200 mile crew changes. They can only work 12 hours by federal law. > anything I'm missing. All Rights Reserved. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Find the right person at BNSF to help you. Zug, you guys must have really been tired. - Erik. The satellite view clearly shows impressions of a turntable and roundhouse across the highway from the town. I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. Thanks. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. LEARN MORE Tribal Relations. They also handle (normally) the salad shooters. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. Sometimes it would take the the full 16 hours on the HOS to make the run. At BNSF, we are committed to providing you the information you need to make informed transportation decisions. Highlighting our commitment to safety, service, communities and our heritage. The mainliners just blast through town. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. Plus a new pool might be in place to handle the New Baltimore intermodal terminal. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. While it may not save the railroad money on wages, it saves them on the cost of benefits. Note that the Puget Sound Extension and the WP were built in the 1905-1910 time frame and train speeds were up significantly from 30 to 40 years earlier. Find images, videos and PDFs that help tell you more about BNSF. While it may not save the railroad money on wages, it saves them on the cost of benefits. Harvey and Enderlin, ND; Glenwood, Thief River Falls, and Minneapolis/St. BNSF at Edgemont Home Here we demonstrate how BNSF's legacy makes us confident in our future. Knutson said he thinks the policy was implemented for several reasons. That's in addition to the $3.3 billion we invested between 2013 and 2017. Crew change points on the old Santa Fe Transco Author: chicohogger. I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. Jeff:Thanks for the explanations. I can remember when the "featherbedding" talk began, about needing to keep crews in the trains longer because the trains were faster and did they really need three men in the cab and two in the rear. Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. Unlimited Members, sign in to enjoy sitewide access. myemployer, any other railroad, company, or person. This change made two crew districts out of what were three, running thru the traditional terminals atAvery, ID and Malden, WA. > > BNSF crew changes:> * Denver east: used to be in Akron, CO, but I think they moved it all> the way out to McCook, NE. The railroad said they made no changes to how much time off an employee receives. There are quite a few who live in central Iowa and drive 200 miles to work the pool. No, they never had aProviso- Boone long pool. The "run through"was established in 1970, not too long before I started my railway career with CP in that area. We're proud to tell our story and how we strive to be a trusted partner worthy of your respect. The Super 8 was their lodging and it was set up with a computer terminal for employees to "see" the railroad and determine what their near future entailed. Maybe an old BN expert can help us here, but didn't BN change some crew districts in Montana to run up to 450 miles? Allan_Love_Jr, Aug 26, 2007 #1. Update: Judge decides on BNSF new attendance policy | kcentv.com Then Casper and Greybull. For the moment I still have more tracks, trains, and switches then they do, but that is changing rapidly, as two new rail facilities are planned for this town. Plus a new pool might be in place to handle the New Baltimore intermodal terminal. ), then Ogden? (Some of these are the same ones who always complained about the long pool because the LP crewsusually get priority to get over the road, no matter what type of train they are on, so they usually go around you.). Drawback for those that don't live near Clinton is the drive. Frisco always changed freight crews at Newburg, MO but my grandpa as passenger conductor changed at Monett, MO, which was farther down the line. I spent quite a few summers in Miles City (my dad's home town) during the 1970's and heard Harlowton mentioned quite a few times, but don't recall hearing about Melstone.